So, everybody seems to have a position they owe a defense for, but you don’t? Sorry, I missed it, show me again where your position or beliefs are (copy & paste preferred)

that means “nothing produced something”? WOW.

So though you’ve said agnostics, atheists have a position and should defend it, what’s your own and do you defend it? Is this a double standard?

I’ve told you where to read about my “position” (whatever that means). No, I don’t see a double standard.

Is agnosticism a lack of ANYTHING? Is there EVER a lack of belief? Or lack of a position? Is baldness a hair color or hairstyle?

Yes, Yes, and No

As you now see you haven’t done well in science.

Thanks for the science lesson, but this site argues against Atheism philosophically not scientifically. You can read more about that here. I don’t have a background in science, but one doesn’t need a background in science to argue philosophy, only a background in philosophy.

But I was hoping you could at least answer my questions on religion. But you answered like man off the top of your head, there was Biblical quotes, not even one.

I gave you 4 or 5 answers. I know a little about Christianity, but I don’t follow Christianity or any particular religion so I don’t know how to answer them any other way then logical deduction. Why would you assume that I would (or even could) give you Bible verses to support what I said? I’m arguing from a logical and reasoning stand point NOT a religious standpoint.

For example you stated “My prayer wasn’t something that could be ignored by God; it forms the basis of His promises paid for by His Blood.”

How do you KNOW God “ignored” your requests? Like I said in my original reply to you, it could have been that he said no or that he wanted you to go through that particular trial so that you could gain the maturity and growth to combat it on your own and perhaps teach others how to deal with those types of stressors. Just because god didn’t do what YOU wanted him to do doesn’t mean that he ignored you or that he doesn’t exist.

Also, I don’t recall Christianity teaching that got promises to deliver people from their afflictions. Christianity teaches that he will FORGIVE the sins of people. I don’t know any religion that teaches that god will keep people from hardship and trials and addictions.

I don’t know why your god allowed that in your life, you would need to ask him.

I know this angers you…

Your assumptions are what anger me, not your irrational and illogical attempts to figure things out. Those are just amusing. Oh, and BTW, your logic isn’t “irrefutable” because I’ve been refuting it since you came here to argue your point.

Who ever said “nothing produced the universe”?

You did! In your comment above you stated “They are thinking in terms of a Quantum Genesis at the beginning. This would be a place where space would shrink to nothing.” If you can’t follow your own argument how do you expect me to follow your argument?

I just read your welcome page, nowhere does it say your position.

Did you follow the link provided on the Welcome page? I don’t know what you mean by position. I don’t know how to say what we are doing with this site any more clearly then what’s already written. The entire site is dedicated to our position. The very name of the site indicates our position.

You ever seen that movie “A Man for All Seasons”?

No. I have no idea what that has to do with our discussion.

Hey Admin, let me ask you, should agnostics defend their lack of a position? or uncertainty? or indifference?

Sure, why not? Agnosticism, BTW, isn’t a lack of a position. Agnosticism is itself a position.